26
Aug
magicJack Hijacks My Free Conference Calls to 218-339-2500!
My friend Russell turned me on to magicJack about a year or so ago. He also evangelized it to several other people I know and about 4-months ago I decided to buy one myself. I was able to get 5 years of VOIP phone service through my desktop, or laptop when I travel, for under a hundred bucks. It’s not always perfect and sometimes the sound quality is not usable at all, but most of the time it’s great and it has allowed me to drop my cell phone contract from 900-minutes a month to only 450-minutes a month—and I use very few of them. I really do get much more than my $1.67/month out of it. However, Monday I experienced a major problem that I feel the need to rant about.
A lot of my business calls are conference calls. When I schedule conference calls I usually schedule them using Windows Live Meeting because I like Microsoft’s VOIP and I also like to use a webcam so I can see the people I’m talking with and so they can see me as well—expressions and gestures add a lot to understanding another party. LiveMeeting has a lot of other things I like too, but that’s another blog post for another day.
The person who scheduled this particular conference call scheduled it through FreeConferenceCall.com. When it was time, I used my magicJack to dial into the meeting at 218-339-2500. Instead of being asked to enter my conference number, I received the following message from magicJack, “Important announcement! Please listen to this entire short message, the number you have dialed can not be completed from your magicJack. For free conference calling set-up you must dial 305-848-8888. You may press 1 any time during this message to connect. Please use this number for all future free conference calling. Please visit FreeMagicConference.com for more information on magicJack Free Conference Calling. Again, that was FreeMagicConference.com.”
So, I disconnected from this call and called the 305-848-8888 number and entered my conference ID when requested. It was not accepted. Obviously, there was no connection between FreeConferenceCall.com and FreeMagicConference.com. I was really frustrated that I was going to have to make this call and use my cell phone minutes. That’s not why I purchased my magicJack.
After the call, I decided to test and see if I could use Google Voice to place the call. Although I haven’t used Google Voice very much so far, I have configured it to ring my cell phone, home land line, and my magicJack when calls are received. When I received my call from Google Voice, I answered it on my magicJack and then I heard the FreeConferenceCall phone ring once; after that I heard a busy signal. I thought that maybe Google Voice was blocking FreeConferenceCall.com as well. To test this theory, I placed the call again, but had it routed to my cell phone instead. This time there was no problem and I was connected. Somehow, magicJack is even hijacking and diverting these calls even when they are made through Google Voice!
I searched through magicJack’s knowledge-base to see if I could find out anything about this and no matter what keywords or questions I entered, I kept getting answers about how to schedule a conference call using FreeMagicConference.com. No explanation at all about why I couldn’t join a conference call.
I did check out FreeMagicConference.com and it is a service very similar to FreeConferenceCall.com and anyone can use it to schedule a meeting, even if you aren’t using a magicJack. I haven’t tried the service, but I may try it one day and let you know how it works. However, being able to initiate a meeting doesn’t help me to attend a meeting at all.
I planned to document all this here on the blog, but I got tied up with other things. This afternoon I read a blog post by Russell, my magicJack pusher friend, about his recent problems (read MagicJack Call to Free Conference Call not Placed to 218-339-2500). In his post he provides the transcript of a chat session he had with magicJack customer service, so I thought I would chat with them too. Customers have to speak out about this and let them know this isn’t good business. Here is the transcript of my chat:
Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with ‘Kiefer’
Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK419075516900X
Kiefer: Hello, how may I help you?
Ricky: Hi, Kiefer.
Ricky: I seem to be unable to join a conference call at 318-339-2500.
Kiefer: Please follow the instructions for making conference calls.
Kiefer: First, dial 305-848-8888
Kiefer: Then press 2
Kiefer: Enter a 3 digit pin to create a conference room number.
Kiefer: And write your conference room number down,
Kiefer: Next is to distribute your dial-in instructions to your conference room attendees.
Kiefer: Dial 305-848-8888
Kiefer: Press 1
Kiefer: and enter your Conference room number.
Ricky: I receive a message telling me I need to call 305-848-8888, but that’s not who my conference call is through.
Ricky: No. I don’t want to SCHEDULE a call, I need to JOIN a call.
Kiefer: Please follow the steps above.
Ricky: My conference call was not scheduled through that service.
Ricky: How do I join a call at this other number.
Kiefer: Thank you for your patience. I will transfer you to a higher level of support. Please hold while I transfer you.
Ricky: Thank you!
Please wait while I transfer the chat to the best suited site operator.
You are now chatting with ‘Kyle’
Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK419075516900X
Kyle: Hi, Ricky.
Ricky: Hi, Kyle.
Ricky: I seem to be unable to join a conference call using my magicJack.
Kyle: May I know the exact nature of your problem with full details please?
Ricky: These calls are one of the major reasons I purchased it.
Kyle: Okay
Ricky: I am trying to connect to a conference call at 218-339-2500.
Ricky: My call gets diverted and I receive a message telling me how to SCHEDULE a call through your service. I don’t need to SCHEDULE a call, I need to JOIN one.
Kyle: Ricky conference call will not work with MJ not unless you will be the host of the conference call.
Ricky: It has always worked before.
Ricky: Why will it not work now?
Ricky: I don’t understand.
Ricky: This just started happening on Monday, and it persists.
Kyle: I’m sorry but we have a new update that you cannot connect to a conference call not unless you’re the host
Ricky: So, I’m just out of luck? There is nothing I can do?
Ricky: Where should I escalate my complaint?
Kyle: Ricky I am at the escalation level and I am explaining this to you,
Ricky: So, you’re the CEO of magicJack?
Ricky: I want to make sure that people there know this isn’t acceptable.
Kyle: No I am one of the escalations.
Ricky: And, do you have a supervisor?
Ricky: Can I chat with your supervisor about this?
Kyle: Our superior will be available in the morning Ricky
Ricky: OK. How should I contact him or her?
Kyle: You can chat us back Ricky.
Ricky: So, I need to go back through all this again? Tomorrow morning?
Ricky: That’s even more frustration.
Ricky: At what time will the supervisor(s) be available?
Kyle: In the morning Ricky I do not have a specific time
Ricky: Do you know a time zone? Morning where? I’m in the Eastern Time Zone.
Ricky: It’s always morning somewhere.
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Kyle: We are in FLorida Ricky, it’s EST here.
Ricky: I’m really not wanting to be a pain for you, but I do want to resolve this problem. I purchased your product as my solution to attending costly and time consuming conference calls and now I find that I’m not able to do so. I just need to make sure this gets fixed.
Ricky: OK. I’ll try back in the morning. If I include my Issue ID, can I skip retyping all this?
Kyle: I understand Ricky as much as I want to help you, but I can’t
Ricky: Thank you Kyle. I hope you have a good rest of your evening.
Kyle: And you as well Ricky, have a pleasant evening.
So, the bottom line is that they are no longer allowing their customers to connect to conference calls via the magicJack unless the customer is the host of the call through their service.
I’ll try chatting tomorrow morning and see if I can get to an escalation supervisor. I’ll keep you posted!
Update: I did some research on FreeConferenceCall.com and how they make money. I found a really short and simple article entitled, The Skinny on FreeConferenceCall.com. I don’t know if magicJack has to pay when people use their service to connect to these lines, but I’m doubting it. I end to think they just want their piece of the free US Toll calling pie and they want to force their users to give it to them. I plan to broach this with the supervisor tomorrow morning if I’m able to actually talk to one.
Update: I have filed a form 2000B – Billing, Privacy, or Service Quality Compliant with the FCC. Here is the text of that compliant:
magicJack no longer allows calls to be placed to FreeConferenceCall.com phone numbers, which means that I can’t attend many conference calls that others schedule for me. They play a message that I can schedule a conference call through their own FreeMagicConference.com service, but there is no way to join a conference call someone else scheduled using the other service. They used to allow this and then suddenly I noticed they were blocking the calls on Monday, August 24. I have contacted customer service and they tell me, “I’m sorry but we have a new update that you cannot connect to a conference call not unless you’re the host.” They don’t give any reason for the change in policy, nor was any warning given.
I don’t know if this is a violation of FCC policies or not, but I wanted to bring it to your attention in case.
I have documented my complete experience, including chat transcripts at: http://rickyspears.com/blog/2009/08/magicjack-hijacks-my-free-conference-calls-to-218-339-2500/
Update (2009-08-27): I was able to chat with a supervisor. The bottom line is that they will not provide any explanation for the change and she says that I can’t chat with anyone higher than her, nor can I call anyone higher. Here is the transcript of our chat:
Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with ‘Morgan’
Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK419075595198X
Morgan: Hello, how may I help you?
Ricky: Hi. I chatted with support last night on Issue ID: LTK419075516900X. Then I chatted with an escalation representative on Issue ID: LTK419075516900X.
Morgan: One moment please…
Ricky: Kyle told me I could chat with an escalation supervisor today.
Ricky: I would like to chat with an escalation supervisor, please?
Morgan: Okay
Morgan: One moment please…
Morgan: Thank you for your patience. I will transfer you to a higher level of support. Please hold while I transfer you.
Ricky: Thank you, Morgan!
Please wait while I transfer the chat to the best suited site operator.
You are now chatting with ‘Myrene’
Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK419075595198X
Myrene: Hi Ricky.
Ricky: Hi Myrene.
Myrene: One moment please…
Ricky: I’m rather disappointed that I can no longer ATTEND conference calls. I would like to get some sort of explanation about why this changed if I can.
Myrene: aRe you having issue with the conference call?
Ricky: Yes. I can’t ATTEND conference calls that other people schedule through services like FreeConferenceCall.com.
Myrene: Alright, I believe you want to Join a confenece call, right? I am sorry but you cannot call that number, magicjack does not support that number. However, you may create your won Conference call . first, create your free magicjack conference room number, – Dial 305-848-8888.
Ricky: I just get a message saying that I have to use FreeMagicConference.com to schedule a conference.
Ricky: However, that doesn’t help me to attend one someone else scheduled.
Ricky: I used to be able to attend them before Monday.
Myrene: That is the new upgrade in our system that i cannot change it Ricky.. I understand how your feel believe me but we cannot change it anymore.
Ricky: Can you tell me why this was changed?
Ricky: Perhaps, why the company felt this would be good for your customers?
Myrene: Before we do not have our own conference phone number but now since we have upgraded you as a MJ user can create a conference call for free,
Ricky: I hear you.
Myrene: Thank you for that Ricky
Myrene: And for allowing me to explain it
Ricky: However that addresses why you don’t want people to SCHEDULE calls, but it doesn’t explain why you won’t allow people to ATTEND calls.
Ricky: From a customer perspective, it’s rather rude.
Myrene: We are open with your opinions and suggestions Ricky.. Please do not worry… I let the higher dept know about this so that they are aware of this as well.
Ricky: Can I chat with anyone higher, myself?
Myrene: I am sorry but this is the higher level that you can chat with Ricky.
Ricky: OK. Who can I call and talk to about this?
Myrene: we as a supervisors… and once we end this chat i will copy and paste our conversation so that they are aware of this.
Ricky: So, you’re saying there is nothing more I can do to get an explanation unless I involve a body outside of magicJack? Like the FCC or BBB or something?
Ricky: I would really prefer to talk to someone there and get an explanation.
Ricky: I just don’t see why some explanation is that difficult.
Myrene: If you are going to create a conference call… the other can join the conference
Ricky: Even if you lie to me, I won’t know the difference.
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Ricky: But I don’t schedule these calls. Other people schedule them. I can’t force them to use one service or another–the way you’re forcing me.
Myrene: I know that you are now frustrated with this but i do not want to lie with you because i do not want you to expect.
Ricky: Just so we are clear: are you saying there is no way for me to get an explanation about why I can no longer attend a conference call that someone else schedules via FreeConferenceCall.com or any other service?
Myrene: I am afraid yes.
Ricky: OK. I’ll take this as gospel… for now.
Ricky: Please let my displeasure be known where you can, and I’ll let my displeasure be known where I can.
Myrene: Sorry didn’t quite catch that
Ricky: Please let your supervisors know that I am displeased and why.
Ricky: I will do everything I can do publicize my experience.
Myrene: Affirmative Ricky
Ricky: Thank you, Myrene. I hope you have a good afternoon!
Myrene: I hope so.
Myrene: You are welcome
Update (2009-08-27): I have just found out that calls to FreeConference.com are being blocked in this same manner as well.
Update (2009-10-07): About a week ago I received my paper copy of my complaint to the FCC and I filed it away. Personally, I think these paper copies are quit wasteful in the modern electronic age, but that’s what they do. Oh well.
This afternoon I received a call from someone named Andrew at magicJack saying that they had received their copy of the complaint and were offering me a full refund on my 5-year contract. I called him back. He was very friendly and professional; I think we had a really good conversation. I told him that I was generally happy with my magicJack and wanted to continue using it–so I didn’t want a refund. I explained that I wasn’t sure about the legality of them blocking access to certain numbers and the only way I could discover that was to file a complaint and leave it for the FCC to decide. He explained that they had reached out to the free conference call companies but said they don’t seem to be willing to work with magicJack to provide free access to their numbers for magicJack users, so it’s unlikely that this functionality will be coming back any time soon. I expressed to him that the consumer will continue to lose as long as CLECs, the VOIP operators, and the Free Conference Call companies all continue to hold onto their current business models and are unwilling to work together to find a solution that works for their customers. A third party will come along eventually that does meet the consumer’s requests and they will wish they had worked together sooner rather than later. It was nice to get to finally express my opinions to a real person at magicJack. [By the way, I am not at liberty to disclose Andrew's direct phone number at magicJack, sorry.]


